Lloyd Genealogy

Our Lloyd Line - English/Welsh

ANCIENT HISTORY OF THE SURNAME LLOYD

Almost 2,000 years ago, the Romans vacated the British Isles at the end of the fourth century. The Welsh or Ancient Britons were left in sole possession of all of England, all the way north to the banks of the Clyde. The Saxons forced them westward into Wales, north to Cumberland and southern Scotland, and into Cornwall.

King Rhodri Mawr, or Roderick the Great, was the first recorded monarch of Wales. He died in 893. On his death, he gave Wales to his three sons: Anarawd became King of north Wales, Cadalh became King of south Wales, and Mervyn became King of Powys, or mid-Wales.

The ancient history of the name Lloyd also emerges from these same Welsh chronicles. It was first found in Montgomeryshire, Wales where they had been seated from very ancient times. From some of the many early records researchers examined, manuscripts such as the Domesday Book*, the Black Book of the Exchequer, the Curia Regis Rolls, Welsh parish records, records from the border counties, the family name Lloyd was traced in many different spellings. The spelling of the name included, Lloyd, Llwyd, Lloid, Loyd, Loid, Lwyd, and these changes in spelling have occurred even between father and son.

Surnames started to be adopted in England between the 10^th and 15^th centuries. At this time, the Patronymic system (Map=mab, ap= son of) was still in use in Wales. Surnames tended to follow, a) the fathers name, b) nickname or distinguishing feature, c) place of origin or d) trade or occupation. Most Welsh surnames seem to originate from the first three categories. In the 15^th century Wales, adopting a surname needed wealth, power.

The surname Lloyd comes from the Welsh “Llwyd”, which has been interpreted as meaning, “hoary”, brown haired”, “grey haired” and later in the medieval period, as “holy”.

There are many families of Lloyd who trace their lineage to many varying Princes and Lords of Wales. Other claims include the direct descent from Rhodri Mawr (Roderick the Great); the first recorded King of Wales, born 809 in Caer Seiont, Caenarfon, Gwynedd, Wales, and died in the year 878. He married Angharad ferch Meurig in Gwynedd, Wales. They had Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr; Anarawd ap Rhodri Mawr; and Cadell ap Rhodri Mawr. Rhodri Mawr’s father was Merfyn Frych “the Freckled” ap Gwriad, the King of Wales. He was born 784 and died in the Battle of Cyfeil, Ketell, Wales in 843. Acknowledging the ancient nobility of this name is more than likely that most of the claims are factual. One of the most interesting episodes was the granting of the present Coat of Arms from Lord Rhys to Cadifor Lloyd for taking Cardigan Castle from the Earl of Clare, although the Earl eventually retook the Castle, became the Earl of Pembroke and went on to conquer the whole of Ireland in 1172. Ref: Royal Genealogical Data.

Religious conflicts followed. The newly found passionate fervor of Cromwellianism found the Roman Church still fighting to regain its status and rights. They looked to the New World for their salvation. Many became pirates who roamed the West Indies such as Captain Morgan. Some were shipped to Ireland where they were known as the Adventurers for land. The New World beckoned the adventurous. They sailed to the New World across the stormy Atlantic aboard the small sailing ships where they were to become known as the “White Sails”.

*The Domesday book was commissioned in December 1085 by William the Conqueror who invaded England in 1066. The first draft was completed in August 1086 and contained records for 13,418 settlements in the English counties.

Early Lloyd Pedigree

CELYNIN of Llwydiarth, the first of this race who settled in Montgomeryshire, fled there after having slain, in single combat, the Mayor of Carlmarthen. It has been suggested that CELYNIN appears as one of the lay witnesses to the foundation charter of the Abbey of Ystrad Marchell, and although the charter itself was of a much earlier date, the time of execution of the testing clause, to which the name is appended, would correspond with CELYNIN’s date. CELYNIN, after his flight to Montgomeryshire, became Steward to Charleton, Lord Powys. His eldest son was EINION ap CELYNIN.

EINION ap CELYNIN, of Llwydiarth married the daughter of ADDA ap MEYRIC, Rector of Meifod, and they had a son LLEWELYN ap EINION.

LLEWELYN ap EINION of Llwydiarth, born 1235. He married LLEUCA, the daughter of GRIFFITH ap EDEN. They had three sons (1) JENKIN ap LLEWELYN; (2) EVAN ap LLEWELYN; and (3) DAVID ap LLEWELYN.

DAVID ap LLEWELYN married twice; by his first wife MARY, the daughter of GRIFFITH GOCH, Esq. he had a son OWEN. He married his second wife MEDISIS, daughter of GRIFFITH DEUDDWR, Esq. of the Tribe of Brochwel Ysgythrog. They had a son, IEVAN TEG.

IEVAN TEG, (otherwise known as “Ievan the Handsome”), was born 1476 in Dolobran, Montgomeryshire, Wales. He married MAUD, daughter of EVAN BLAYNEY of Castle Blayney in Ireland, and had OWEN TEG LLOYD, and DAVID TEG LLOYD.

OWEN LLOYD, born in Dolobran, Montgomeryshire, Wales. He married KATHERINE, the daughter of RAYNALT VAUGHAN, son of Sir GRIFFITH VAUGHAN, Knight Banneret, of Agincourt, and had two sons and one daughter. EVAN LLOYD, DAVID LLOYD, and ELLEN LLOYD. The surname of Lloyd had its origin with OWEN LLOYD. He assumed the name from Llwydiarth, the estate of his grandfather. We are a direct descendant of either Evan or David Lloyd.

As of this date, we have not been able to make a connection to the father of our John E. Lloyd.

EVAN LLOYD, of Dolobran, Montgomeryshire, Wales, the eldest son, married GWENHWYVAR, daughter of MEREDITH LLOYD of Meifod. The children were DAVID LLOYD, and JOHN LLOYD.

DAVID LLOYD born 1523 in Dolobran, Montgomeryshire, Wales. His name appears under the name of “D. D. LLOID ap LEU’N (EVAN ap OWEN, Gentlemen” on Grand Juries in the County of Montgomery in 1542. He married, (1), EVA, daughter of EDWARD PRICE, of Eglasig. He had no issue. He married (2), EVA, daughter of EVAN DAVID GOCH. They had a son, DAVID LLOYD.

DAVID LLOYD, Jr. born 1549 in Dolobran, Montgomeryshire, Wales. He married ALES, daughter of DAVID LLOYD, Esq. They had a son JOHN LLOYD.

JOHN LLOYD, born 1575 in Dolobran, Montgomeryshire, Wales. He married his cousin CATRIN (KATHERINE), the daughter and coheiress of HUMPHREY LLOYD WYNN of Dyffryn about 1612. He kept his abode at Coed Cowryd, and wainscoted the parlor and lived there in great state, having twenty-four men with halberds to attend him to Meifod Church, and placed them in his great pew under the pulpit. He also bought OWEN JOHN HUMPHREY’s estate in Meifod.

JOHN LLOYD is buried at Meifod Parish May 25, 1636. They had a son CHARLES LLOYD.

CHARLES LLOYD, I, born 1613 in Dolobran, Montgomeryshire, Wales. He married ELIZABETH STANLEY, daughter of THOMAS STANLEY of Knockin in the County of Salop. He lived at Dolobran Hall, and enlarged the same by adding to it with the timber buildings on the north side thereof, making the said hall’s platform to resemble the figure of a capital “L”. Previous to 1780, an oak panel over the fireplace of the old hall at Dolobran, upon which was emblazoned the shield of CHARLES LLOYD, from whom it came to the grandson of the latter, JAMES FARMER LLOYD of London, who now owns it. CHARLES LLOYD was esteemed one of the most eminent genealogists and antiquarians of his time. He built a Friends meeting house near Dolobran Hall about 1660. CHARLES I died in 1657, and his burial in Meifod Parish is thus entered in McIvor Register. He left a Will dated June 17, 1651. Charles and Elizabeth had three sons, and a daughter.

Note: The pictures (dated 1882) shown above, were taken from “The Quaker Seekers of Wales, A Story of the Lloyds of Dolobran”, by Anna Lloyd Braithwaite Thomas. This book was published in London, England, 1924.

First Generation

John LLOYD. Born on 25 Dec 1704 in London, England. In 1742 when John was 37, he married Prudence EMORY/EMBRY, in Baltimore, Maryland. John's family came from Wales before England and John was a Shoemaker's apprentice and had two other known brothers; Joseph and Phillip, one was a clock maker and the other a printer. John came to America in 1726 when he was approximately 22 years old.

Could our John have been a "convict" when he came over? Circumstantial evidence suggests so, more below.

Throughout this page I will be quoting information from the book: John and Prudence (Emrey) Lloyd, their descendants, and some allied families by Oliver C. Weaver, Jr. which I have in my personal possession. If anyone would like me do a look up from this book, please e-mail me, I'd be happy to check for you. I'd like to personally thank my cousin Mary Beth Merchant for contacting me about the availability of this book and getting it to me. Thanks Mary Beth !

Another cousin generously copied his copy of the original letter and it is below; they are large documents so be patient if you open them. They are pretty legible. The transcription is right below it.

Our Lloyd's of London

There are a lot of stories concerning the Lloyds, allied family of the Martins. Much of them are from stories and letters passed down from generation to generation, so accuracy is questionable.

John S. Lloyd was the first of our Lloyd ancestors to come to America. He was sent to America as an indentured servant, his crime being simple grand larceny, his sentence being 14 years. Above is what John would have seen as he was taken to court. He was tried at the Old Bailey, the Central Criminal Court. At the time of his trial, defendants were not allowed representation. They were able to represent themselves, but they had to build their case while in prison awaiting trial. Until the actual trial, they were unaware of the specific evidence that would be presented against them, they had to respond spontaneously to what the witnesses said. This was thought to be the best way to get the truth from them. Because of this, many innocent people were found guilty. Luckily for us, John's punishment was transportation. following is trial summary for John's case. there is a lot of speculation that he was set up because of the perfect, respectful, religious life he led after coming to America. From what I've read, I tend to agree.

TRIAL SUMMARY
Crime(s): theft : simple grand larceny

Punishment Type: transportation

(Punishment details may be provided at the end of the trial.)

Verdict: Part Guilty: theft under 1s

Other trials on 22 Feb 1727

Name search for: John Lloyd

Defendant's Home: St. Botolph's Aldgate

TRIAL SUMMARY

John Lloyd, of the Parish of St. Botolph's Aldgate, was indicted for stealing a Gold Ring, value 9 Shillings with several Shoemakers Tools, as Knives, Pinchers, Awls, & C. the 6th of Feb. last, the Goods and Property of Samuel Peters.

The Prosecutor depos'd. That the Prisoner had lodged at his House, and upon making Enquiry for the Loss of his Things, he heard the Prisoner was stopt with the Ring, which he pretended he found in the Entry, but it not being believ'd that he could find the working Tools too, (which was taken on him) the Jury found him guilty to the value of 10 d.

The Trials being over, the Court proceeded to give Judgment as follows:

Transportation

Information provided by Old Bailey Online

John S. Lloyd in America

John landed in Baltimore, Maryland March 10, 1727 aboard the Rappahannock, under the command of Charles Whale. Nothing more is known about John until his marriage to Prudence Emrey in Orange County, Virginia in 1742. The 1750 census shows him residing in Frederick County, Virginia. He was an indentured servant for 14 years.

A seventh generation descendent of John and Prudence, John W. Lloyd claimed, on the basis of family tradition, that the family originally came from Cardiff, Glomorganshier, Wales. John's father was from Wales hence the reason of using the "LL" in the spelling of our name. He had two older brothers, Joseph and Phillip, one a watch and clock maker, the other a printer. John was bound, at a young age, as an apprentice to a boot and shoe maker and aspired to become a master craftsman in this trade. he married without permission of his employer, to whom he was bound as an apprentice, and therefore could not become a master craftsman but would work his life as a journeyman. He had a child by this marriage; however his wife and child died suddenly.

After marrying Prudence, John served in the Frederick County Militia in the 1750s. At a Vestry meeting in November 1767, John was appointed "Reader" of the parish of Frederick of the Church of England at McKays Chapel. His salary was 6 pounds per year. He served in that capacity again in 1768 and 1769. A Vestry of November 27, 1772, John Lloyd was exempted from payment of parish levies, which might indicate that he was too old or too feeble to work. John would have been 68 years old in 1772.

All of John Lloyd's five (5) sons served either in the Continental Army or the Minute Men Militia during the Revolutionary War. While the manner of his coming to America is questionable, he is thought to have been a productive and respected member of the Frederick County community, living most of his adult life there. His appointment as reader at McKays Chapel is indicative of the esteem in which he was held by the community, and shows that he was a devoted member of the Church of England.

Most of what is known about John and Prudence (Emrey) Lloyd has been preserved in a letter written by their youngest son, Joseph, when Joseph was seventy-seven years old, the letter having been written in response to an inquiry from Joseph's nephew, James McCracken Lloyd. The full text of Joseph's letter can be found here.

I. John and Prudence (Emrey) Lloyd - The Lloyds (from the above mentioned book)

The first of our Lloyd line to reach American shores was John Lloyd who was born in the city of London, England in the year 1704 on Old Christmas Day, came to Baltimore, Maryland, in 1726, married Prudence Emery in 1742 (when he was 38 yrs old), and with her he reared a family of five sons and two daughters.

Most of what is known about John and Prudence (Emrey) Lloyd has been preserved in a letter written by their youngest son, Joseph, when Joseph was seventy-seven years of age, the letter having been written in response to an inquiry from Joseph's nephew, James McCracken Lloyd. The full text of Joseph's letter follows:

Mount Washington - October 14, 1838 - Bullitt County, Kentucky

Dear Jammy:

Agreeably to your request, I proceed to give you some items of the Lloyd family: excluding prefatory remarks, I shall enter upon the subject: and give you the best account I can.

My father John Lloyd was born in the City of London in the year 1704 Old Christmas day, his father was from Wales hence the reason of using the double L in spelling our names, my father had two other brothers, Joseph and Philip, one a Watch and Clock maker, the other a Printer, my father I believe was the youngest, and was bound to a Boot and Shoemaker, before his term expired he married without his masters consent: this by the laws of England disqualifies a man from being a master workman, and thro' life he can only be a Journeyman, he returned home one evening from his work, and found his Wife and one child they had, both dead, this was a distressing (end of first page) circumstance and occasioned him to turn his thoughts toward America; he accordingly executed his plan, and landed at Baltimore in 1726.

He continued in a single state until 1742 when he married Prudence Emrey, Seven children were the fruits of this marriage viz Thomas (your father) born October 2nd 1744. John born February 27th 1747. Alcey born January 29th 1749. James born September 14th 1752, in this year and in this month, the stile was altered and time put 11 days back, hence Old Christmas so call'd, from the 5th of January was put back to the 25th December. -- Lydia born April 24th 1755. George Emrey born February 4th 1758. Joseph born December 16th 1761. Thomas (your father) married in his nineteenth year to Patience McCracken. Of her family I know but little; Wm Norris her half brother, you know as well as I. He moved to the state of Ohio in 1814 or 15. Your brothers were as follows:: Stephen born December 24th 1764 married a Sally Pinkstaff; three children I remember Winny, Catherine and James, there might be more, which I know not of. (End of Second Page). He died and his widow married a certain James Smallwood, here my knowledge of this branch ends. William married a Nancy Tilman had William, Lucinda, Thomas, Mahlon & Matilda, Thomas lives in Louisville, of the rest I know nothing. Wms wife Nancy died & he married a Mrs. Blake, has several children by her and is living in the State of Ohio. In regard to your other brothers and sisters you know as much or more than I do. I pass them by.

Your uncle John married a Sally Stuard & moved to Georgia, he died in 1785. His Children were John, William, Charles, Benjamin, Moses, Elijah, Joseph, James, and Miriam __ Miriam married John Orear & moved to Tennessee, of the others I have no certain account. James married Mary Stuard, sister to Sally in 1791 they had several children viz Lydia, Rachel, Sally, Frances, George, John and Thomas; my knowledge of his family ends here. Alcey was married to John Williams, their children were James, Susanna, Elizabeth, George, Thomas, Lydia & Isaac. Susanna lives in Holston, VA and has several children, I can't recollect all their names. (End of third page). George I think lives in Illinois, Thomas far West in Missouri.

George Emrey married in Fauquier County, VA to Nancy Brown, their children were George Emrey, he married Ruth Duncan, and had several children and moved about 150 miles west of Detroit, Fanny married a Henry Plaster, lives in Loudoun, VA has 4 or 5 children. Joseph Alvan lives near Zanesville Ohio and has two children, Gillian married to Dan Shank lives in Licking Creek, Ohio. William and your Uncle George E. Lloyd lives with them.

In speaking of myself I may name that I married Fanny Brown, sister to my brother George's Wife, so you may see my second and third brothers married sisters, and the fourth and fifth also. I hope I have 4 children yet living viz Nancy married to Wesley Harris, lives in Louisville, her children are Elizabeth, William Thomas, Marshall, Julian, and John Wesley. Patsy married to Thomas Jefferson Saunders has 3 children, Joseph Franklin, George Washington, and Martha. Alcey married to Milton W. Parrish (End of Fourth page), has one daughter Lydia and, John has been twice married no children as yet born to him.

I have now given you a very short and imperfect account indeed of the matters you wish'd information of. Excuse bad writing & any inaccuracies you may discover. And now my dear nephew I bid you an affectionate farewell. May happiness here and hereafter be your lot.

Joseph Lloyd

Per a letter to me from Oliver C. Weaver, Jr. "One caution about my book. As noted in the "New Foreword and Correction!" of the 1998 reprint of my book, I am now fully convinced that I was mistaken in placing Prudence Emrey in the Embree family of Little Egg Harbor, NJ, and Robert Embree of New Haven, CT. I am also highly doubtful that she belonged to the Embrey family of Summerduck Run, Fauquier Co., VA. She most probably belonged to a German Emrick family whose name was anglicized in colonial American as Emrey. Joseph Lloyd and his brother, George Emrey Lloyd, preserved the Emrey spelling. Later generations changed it to Emery and Emory. Public recorders spelled names as they sounded, hence many variations."

and this: "Nothing has thus far been discovered about the birthplace of Prudence Emrey, but it probably was not London, England. My present best guess is that she was born into a Pennsylvania Emrick family of German or perhaps Dutch (Emmerich) descent. She and John Lloyd were probably married in Orange (Frederick) County, VA, but we don't really know.

My note, 2008: I recently came across a tree on ancestry that has George Emery and Catherine Thomas as her parents, but I have no proof of this.

Joseph Lloyd's letter of 1838 lists no husband for his sister Lydia, and I am sure Joseph would have named him if Lydia was married. Thomas and Patience (McCracken) Lloyd's daughter Lydia, born 1768, married Reuben Northern. John Lloyd, son of John and Prudence Emrey Lloyd, married Sarah Stuard. She was a sister of Mary Stuard who married James Lloyd. The last three names on your list of children of Thomas and Patience (McCracken) Lloyd (Charles, Joseph R., and Elijah) were sons of John and Sarah (Stuard) Lloyd.

John Lloyd and Prudence Emery had the following children:

i.	Thomas (1744-1805) our line; more below
ii.	John E. LLOYD (1747-1785) Catherine, our connection goes all the way back to the first Lloyd, John and Prudence. The one you have, John E. Lloyd and he married Sarah Stuard (Stewart). His son Levi Lloyd was my GGG Grandfather. This bunch of Lloyds went to Georgia then to Alabama. Some of them then went to Arkansas and some (my branch) went to Mississippi and then into Texas. My Great Grandfather was Judson Stanford Lloyd. I have been in touch with several Lloyd Researchers and there is a letter written by John Lloyd (the first John's) son, Joseph, to his nephew, giving the names of his brothers and much of their history.
iii.	Alcey Lloyd, Born on 29 JAN 1748/49, married John Williams, born about 1745, of Virginia
iv.	James Lloyd, Born on 14 Sep 1753, married Mary Stuard, born about 1769, of Virginia. This line moved to Georgia as did John E. above.
v.	Lydia Lloyd, Born on 24 Apr 1755
vi.	George Emery Lloyd, Born on 4 Feb 1758, married Nancy Ann Brown, born about 1762, of Fauquier County, VA. George died in Etna, Licking, Ohio. George was a Private in the Revolutionary War for VA.
vii.	Joseph Lloyd, Born on 16 Dec 1761, married Fanny Brown (sister to George Emery's wife, Nancy Ann Brown), born about 1775 of Fauquier County, VA. Enlisted in the 4th Virginia Regiment of the Continental Line. His service began three weeks after the Battle of Guilford Courthouse at which General Nathaniel Greene had deflected Cornwallis' march from the Carolinas into Virginia, causing Cornwallis to begin the retreat which ended at Yorktown. Beginning his service as a private in a company under the command of Captain Samuel Finley, Joseph marched with his company to Powhatan Courthouse. There he was put into the company of Captain James Graves of the Fourth Virginia Regiment. He continued in this company when Captain Kirkpatrick succeeded Graves as its commander.

Second Generation

Thomas LLOYD. Born on 2 Oct 1744 of Virginia and died December 1, 1805 when he was approximately 61 yrs old. Thomas married Patience McCRACKEN. Born abt 1744 of Virginia. Patience died in 1797 on 15 Jun 1797, she was 53. Patience was the daughter of James McCracken whom you can read more about here. (James died in an Indiana massacre and two of his children were taken by the Indians). Patience McCracken died in Frederick County, Virginia, on June 17, 1797. I have seen information on ancestry that says Patience McCracken's mother was a Hannah Bell, and Patience's middle name was Bell. I do not see the name Bell or Hannah come down. More research needs to be done.

About two miles north of Berry's Ferry (now the Harry F. Byrd Bridge) the Shenandoah River veers to the west for about a mile and a half, then loops north for about a half mile, then back east. The land within this loop was owned by Marquis Calmes and it was known as Calmes' Neck, a name which it still bears. Bordering the southeastern boundary of Calmes' Neck is a tract of land (No. 198 on Dickinson's map) which Lord Fairfax leased to John Graves in 1769.

Thomas and Patience (McCracken) Lloyd lived near this tract, as did Patience' half brother, William Norris who married John Graves' daughter Molly. It was to this area, about three miles northeast of Berry's Ferry and high in the Blue Ridge Mountains overlooking the Shenandoah River Valley, that Thomas' brothers George Emrey Lloyd and Joseph Lloyd returned after their military service in the Revolutionary War.

Here Thomas and Patience reared all of their children, several of whom lived out their entire lives in the area. Here, along the ridge roads served by the Berry's Ferry Post Office, innumerable descendants of Thomas and Patience - notably the off spring of Stephen and Samuel - have eked out their livelihoods as farmers and laborers.

(Note: Several of Thomas' and Patience's children ended up in Sullivan County Indiana, where my line also migrated to. Sullivan is one county over from where I, the author of this site, was born. Several of these Lloyd's are buried in the Little Flock Cemetery in Sullivan County, Indiana where I've been a couple of times, these pictures in this paragraph are from one of my visits there.

i.	James McCracken Lloyd was born May 29, 1773. He died May 27, 1855, and was buried in the Little Flock Cemetery, Shelburn, Indiana. He married first Elizabeth Bridges, Feb 18, 1796, Washington County, Virginia. Elizabeth died on March 15, 1804, Washington County, Virginia. He married second to Prudence Jameson who died six months later. He married third to Lucy Bridwell, December 12, 1805. She died October 1806. He married 4th Margaret Bridges (sister to his first wife), December 12, 1810 in Nelson county, KY. Their children: Lydia, buried Little Flock Elizabeth, buried Little Flock and William Thomas, bur Little Flock. James' first wife Elizabeth Bridges died March 15, 1804, Wash Co., VA. Their children: Mahala, bur Little Flock Cem; James Bridges, went to Kansas; and Letitia, died in Sullivan county, twin to James Bridges.
ii	William Lloyd, born circa 1766; died March 28, 1873; married 1st Ann Tillman, June 28, 1787, Frederick Co., VA; their children: William, Lucinda, Thomas (moved to Louisville, KY), Mahlon *and Matilda. William married second to Elizabeth Blake, March 27, 1817 and had several more children. William and Elizabeth moved to Ohio where William was still living in 1838.
iii	Lydia Lloyd, born circa 1768; married Reuben Northern. Resided in Washington Co., VA and in Nelson and Bullitt Counties, KY. There were children.
iv	Stephen Lloyd, Born in 1764; married Sarah (Sally) Pingstaff on Sept 15, 1791, and died in Frederick County, VA abt 1805. His name does not appear on land tax records of the county, but he can be traced n personal property tax lists beginning June 12, 1788, and continuing nearly every year through 1805. Their children: Winnie, Caroline, James, Henry
iv	Thomas Lloyd, Jr. was born on 21 May 1770; died about 1803; married Miss Renick; resided in Frederick County, Virginia.
v	John Lloyd Born on 9 Mar 1776 in Frederick County, VA, married Eleanor Gardner and settled in Culpepper Co., VA. In 1812, he moved his family to Kentucky. They traveled "in Ruston's pack-train over Boone's trail on horseback, driving their stock, and bringing their coin, silver tableware, and a violin." They settled near the village of Fairview, Nelson County, KY. John gave the land on which the Little Union Baptist Church was built. He later moved to Sullivan county, Indiana. Eleanor Gardner died in 1833, John in 1858. Both are buried in the Little Flock Baptist Cemetery near Shelburn, Indiana. Their children were: Philip, Williamson, John Emery, Thomas, Moses, Nancy, Letisha, Elizabeth, Asenith, Eleanor
vi	Samuel Alexander Lloyd (1777-1862) - our line; see more below
vii	Prudence Lloyd; born abt 1779. She married Henry Renick and they settled in Hampshire County, VA, now W. Virginia.
viii	Elizabeth Lloyd, born July 6, 1781, Frederick County, VA, married Jacob Ramey Feb 2, 1803. She died Unknown. - Child of ELIZABETH LLOYD and JACOB RAMEY is: i. MALINDA RAMEY, b. Unknown, Hampshire County, West Virginia; d. Unknown.
ix	Joseph R. Lloyd; born abt 1782, married Martha Hedges. They moved with Reuben and Lydia (Lloyd) North to Washington County, VA and the two families subsequently moved together to Nelson Co., Kentucky. Joseph and his brother James McCracken Lloyd owned adjacent tracts of land in Nelson county, Kentucky, both tracts having been purchased from Reuben Northern. She was born Abt. 1787 in Virginia, and died Unknown.
xiii.	Sarah Lloyd, born November 20, 1786; married Oliver Bridges. Ended up in Sullivan County, Indiana.

Third Generation

Samuel Alexander LLOYD. Born on 17 Sep 1777 in Frederick County, Virginia. Samuel died in Virginia in 1862, he was 84. In 1798 when Samuel was 20, he married Henrietta HOWE, who was born in 1780 in Ireland. Henrietta died in 1830, she was 50.

Per the book cited above: "Samuel spent his entire life in Frederick Co., VA. He married Henrietta Howe in 1798 and they had many children, probably thirteen. He can be traced on Frederick County tax lists beginning in 1799 and on Clarke County tax lists, the area having been put into Clarke County when it was carved from Frederick. The 1850 Census shows him in Clarke County, 82 yrs of age, with a Berry's Ferry Post Office address. He lived in the midst of his own children and those of his brothers Stephen and William. Among his children were his sons John, Henderson and James W. Lloyd."

Per a letter I received from Oliver C. Weaver, Jr., author of the Lloyd Book cited above: "As to your question, I do not have any information about Henrietta Howe other than that in my book except possibly this: I think buried somewhere in my files there is a note from a descendant that she and Samuel Lloyd were married in Maryland (i.e. western Maryland near Frederick County, VA).

Samuel Alexander Lloyd and Henrietta Howe had the following children:

i.	Henderson Lloyd
ii.	John W. Lloyd, b. 1812
iii.	Joseph Lloyd
iv.	David Lloyd
v.	Galazy Lloyd
vi.	Sarah Lloyd
vii.	Polly Lloyd
viii.	Eliza Lloyd
viii	Charles Lloyd
xi	James W. Lloyd Our Line; went to Lawrence County Indiana then over to Sullivan County, Indiana near where this author was born.

James W. Lloyd

Excerpted from Greenwood's History of Sullivan and Greene Counties, Indiana, Published circa 1900:

"James W. Lloyd, farmer, post office Shelburn, Curry Township, son of Samuel and Henrietta (Howe) Lloyd; was born in Frederick County, Virginia, September 17, 1777, and she was born in Ireland in 1780; she died in 1830 and he in 1862. They were married in 1798. She came to this country when 14 years of age. They had 13 children. Subject was born in Frederick County, Virginia March 20, 1820, where he was reared and educated. At age 16 he entered the milling business near Harper's Ferry on the Shenandoah River (picture right). After working in the mill about 2 years, he traveled for his employer, collecting & buying grains, etc. In 1840, he came to Indiana and settled in Lawrence County and remained there about one year.

In 1841, came to Sullivan County, and about 9 years of his life were spent in various pursuits. When he bought forty acres of land in Curry Township, afterwards adding 82 acres and then 70 acres.

In 1861 he enlisted in Company E, 43rd Regiment, Indiana Volunteers Infantry, marching and fighting and touching at the following points: Calhoun, Kentucky, Benton and New Madrid, Missouri, Tiptonville, Ft. Pillos and Memphis, Tennessee and Helena, Arkansas, where he was discharged. He was wounded in the arm and back by trying to save a wagon from falling over a precipice. He then returned home to his farm, where he remained one year, and then sold out and engaged in general merchandising in Shelburn, in which he continued three years, when he located on his present place. He has served as Constable 10 years, and one year as Town Marshall. He married in Lawrence County, Indiana, December 27, 1840 to Louisa Erwin, born in Floyd county, Indiana January 11, 1821, daughter of Simon and Milly Trosper (Isom) Erwin, natives of North Carolina, and from this union have been born ten children - Henrietta, James Alexander, Henderson and David F. (Living) John S., Keerford, Matilda and one unnamed dead (see note below). Politically, he is a strong Democrat, but was the first man to make a speech on the subject of the late war, being in favor crushing out the rebellion. He also backed his opinion by going out."

Below are Comments from Elizabeth Havel, granddaughter of James Alexander Lloyd, brother to my line, Henrietta Lloyd:

Doesn't the above sound to you as if the writer had interviewed James W. Personally? Or at least that it was written when he was still alive? He supposedly died in 1882 but I haven't been able to confirm this date. He and Louisa's tombstone is in Little Flock Cemetery down home, but the date for his death wasn't filed in. The unnamed child above was Charles, who is buried on the family plot in the same row with his brothers, John S. and Keerford, who both died of disabilities during the Civil War and all 3 have government stones. I have copies of service records for James S. and Keerford from the National Archives, but they say they have no record on Charles. I shall try the State of Indiana records.

Note that this account lists Louisa's parents as Simon and Milly Isom Erwin (this is Milly Trosper). I find Simon Erwin in the 1820 Indiana Census for Floyd County (Louisa was born in Floyd County) with a wife and one female child, but I have never been able to find him in later censuses. Louisa and James W. were married in Lawrence County in 1840 and there were both Erwin's and Isom's in that county then. The only Trosper's I have found anywhere were a John Trosper in Crawford County in 1820 old enough to have had a grown daughter, and a young John, presumably his son. If you have any other bits of information on William Erwin and Arbuthnot Trosper, I'd like to have them. Many years ago Flora Froment said they were Louisa's parents.

Elizabeth Havel

Lloyd, John
Service: Private, 2nd Regiment, Company G, Washington County. Mustered in 20 Jun 1846, at New Albany, Indiana, by Colonel Samuel Churchill, mustered out 23 Jun 1847, at New Orleans, Louisiana, by Colonel Samuel Churchill.[4-384]

Lloyd, William
Service: Private, 2nd Regiment, Company G, Washington County. Mustered in 20 Jun 1846, at New Albany, Indiana, by Colonel Samuel Churchill, mustered out 23 Jun 1847, at New Orleans, Louisiana, by Colonel Samuel Churchill. [4-384]

Fourth Generation

James W. LLOYD. Born on 20 Mar 1820 in Frederick Co. Per my cousin Scott: At the library I found James death date, Grand Army of the Republic Descriptive book. Line 17 Lloyd J. W. age 66 Clark Co. Sullivan In. Entry service Dec. 8, 1861 Discharge Feb. 6, 1863 for disability. Jan 18/1889. James is buried in Little Flock Cemetery, Shelburn, Indiana (left). On 27 Dec 1840 when James W. was 20, he married Louisa ERWIN, daughter of Simon ERWIN & Arbuthnot (Milly) TROSPER, in Lawrence Co., IN. Louisa was born on 11 Jan 1821 in Floyd Co., Indiana. Louisa died in Sullivan Co., Indiana on 18 Feb 1888, she was 67. James W. and Louisa are listed in the 1870 Sullivan County, IN Census.

In the name of the great Father of all, I Louisa Lloyd of Sullivan County in the State of Indiana being of sound mind though weak in body, do make and publish this my last will and testament.

Item One: I give and bequeath to my son William E. Lloyd the sum of two dollars.

Item Two: I give and bequeath to my daughter Henrietta Monticue the sum of two dollars.

Item 3. I give and bequeath to my son James A. Lloyd the sum of two dollars.

Item 4. I give and bequeath to my son Henderson Lloyd the sum of two dollars.

Item 5. I give and bequeath to my son David F. ? Lloyd the sum of two dollars.

Item 6. I will that before the above bequeaths shall be paid, all the expenses of my last sickness and funeral shall _____ be paid, and next all my just debts.

Item 7. After the payment of the expenses of my last sickness and funeral, and all my just debts, and the several bequests abovementioned in items 1,2,3,4 and 5, I then will and bequeath to my husband James W. Lloyd all the residue of my estate, including the real estate of which I may die possessing, to have and hold forever.

Item 8. I do hereby nominate James W. Lloyd and appoint the same as Executor of this my last will and testament, hereby authorizing and empowering him to compromise, adjust, release and discharge in such manner as he may deem proper, the debts and claims due me.

I do also authorize and empower him if it shall become necessary, in order to pay my debts, to sell, by private sale, or in such a manner upon such ite4ms of credit or otherwise, as he may think proper, all, or any part of my real estate, and execute, acknowledge and deliver, deeds in _________________________________.

Item 9. I do hereby revoke all former wills Made by me.

On testimony hereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal, this 15 day of April A.S. 1887.

Louisa Lloyd

Signed and acknowledged by the said Louisa Lloyd as her last will and testament, in our presence, and signed by us as witnesses in her presence.

William H. Snider
V. E. Delashumitt

The State of Indiana, Sullivan County, Be it remembered that on the 4- day of January 1889, William H. Snider one of the subscribing witnesses to the writing ad foregoing last will and testament of Louisa Lloyd late of said County, deceased, personally appeared before Mr. P. R. Jenkins Clerk of the Circuit Court of Sullivan County, in the State of Indiana, and being duly sworn by the Clerk of said Court, upon his oath declared and testified as follows, that is to say: that on the 15 day of April 1887, he saw the said Louisa Lloyd sign her name to said instrument in writing, was s the same time at the request of the said Louisa Lloyd and with her consent attested and subscribed by the said William H. Snider and V. E. Delashmett in his presence of the said testament and in the presence of each other as subscribing witnesses thereto, and that the said Louisa Lloyd was a the time of signing and subscribing of the said instrument as aforesaid, of full age, that is, more than twenty one years of age), and of sound and deposing mind and memory, and not under any coercion or restraint; and that the said Louisa Lloyd departed this life on the 18th day of February 1888, as the said departed verily believes and further deponent sys not.

William H. Snider

Sworn to and subscribed by the said William H. Snider before ___ P. R. Jenkins Clerk of said Court, at Sullivan, this 4-day of January 1889.

The Lloyds in Sullivan County are traceable back to three children and one grandchild of Thomas & Elizabeth McCracken Lloyd of Frederick County, Virginia; - who either immigrated directly to Sullivan County, or first went to Nelson County, Kentucky before coming to Sullivan County.

The two sons are: (1) John Lloyd w/wife Eleanor Gardner and (2) James McCracken Lloyd w/wife Melissa Cuppy; and one daughter: (3) Sarah Lloyd w/husband Oliver Bridges. The grandchild was (4.) James W. Lloyd w/wife Louisa Erwin, who is the oldest Sullivan County ancestor in our line. All of the Lloyds in Little Flock Cemetery are traceable back to one of these four original settler families (actually three, as I have no descendant information about Oliver and Sarah Lloyd Bridges although they too are buried in Little Flock).

Hi Catherine: The mother of Eleanor, Elizabeth, Margaret, and Oliver Bridges died in late 1824 leaving her land to the children. The estate was settled in late 1825 and the land sold. They were in Sullivan Co., IN by the summer of 1826 and it would be probable that they traveled after the winter storms. There is some dispute whether the date is 1824 or 1826 when the Palmer's Prairie Church was formed in Sullivan Co. Most records say 1826. Regardless James and Margaret Lloyd were founding members of the church and supposedly arrived in Sullivan shortly before. The other Bridges, Lloyds, Osburns and others arrived at the same time as I have family writings that verify the Bridges and Osburns came to Sullivan in 1826. As to your James Lloyd, I have little until after he arrived in Sullivan Co. He married Louisa Erwin on December 20, 1840 in Lawrence Co., IN. Louisa is reported to be the daughter of Simon Erwin and Mildred Trosper who were married in Clark Co. in 1820 which would fit Louisa being born abt 1821. Exactly what route he used to get to Indiana is not known (or at least by me) Most of the other Lloyds were gone from KY by that time and had established themselves in IN so he may have came directly from VA. Believe they were in Sullivan Co. by 1850. Roberta rbhw987@swbell.net

(James W., (father) Keerford, and John S. Lloyd (sons) all served in Company D, 43 Infantry, Indiana Volunteers.) Keerford and John both died in the Civil War or from wounds suffered from the war.)

Cols. George K. Steele, William E. McClean, John C. Major. Lieutenant Cols. William E. McClean, John C. Major, Wesley W. Norris. Majs. William L. Farrow, John C. Major, Wesley W. Norris, Charles W. Mess.

This regiment was organized at Terre Haute, and mustered in September 27, 1861. Soon afterward, it moved to Spotsville, Kentucky, thence to Calhoun where it went into camp until late February 1862. It was transferred to Missouri, attached to General Pope's army and participated in Siege of New Madrid and Island No. 10. Later it was with Foote's gunboat fleet at Fort Pillow for 69 days and was the first Union regiment to land in the city of Memphis. With the 42nd Infantry it formed the garrison there for two weeks until reinforced.

In July, 1862 it was ordered up the White River, Arkansas and later to Helena. It accompanied Hovey's Expedition to Yazoo Pass. At the Battle of Helena, it supported a battery repulsing three attacks and capturing a regiment greater in numbers than its own. It assisted in the capture against Little Rock and reenlisted there in January 1864. It moved with the expedition being engaged at Elkins and Jenkins Ferries, Camden, and Marks Mills. At the latter place, its brigade, engaged in guarding a train of wagons from Camden to Pine Bluff, was attacked by 5,000 of Marmaduke's Cavalry, the 43rd losing nearly 200 in killed, wounded, and missing. Among the captured were 104 reenlisted veterans. It was furloughed home on June 10 and while there it volunteered to go to Frankfort, Kentucky which was threatened by Morgan's Cavalry. It remained at Frankfort till the enemy left that part of the state and on the way home was in a skirmish with guerrillas near Eminence, Kentucky. At the conclusion of its furlough the regiment was placed on duty at Camp Morton.

Of 164 men captured in Arkansas and taken to the enemy's prison at Tyler, Texas, ten or twelve died, the others returning in March, 1865 and joining the regiment at Indianapolis. The regiment was mustered out June 14, 1865. Its original strength was 98, gain by recruits 1154, reenlistments 165, total 2304. Loss by death 206, desertion 121, unaccounted for 285.

Source: "The Union Army, Vol. III", 1908

James W. Lloyd and Louisa Erwin had the following children: (they had two boys die in the Civil War or from wounds suffered in the Civil War and they also had an 11/12 yr old son die, Charles Howe Lloyd). Along with James W. and Louisa; John, Keerford, Henrietta, and Charles are buried at the Little Flock Cemetery in Sullivan County, Indiana where this author has been several times, and I was born not too far from there in Greene County, IN. Pictures of the Little Flock Cemetery are here.

James W. enlisted in Company E. 43rd Regiment of the Indiana Volunteer Infantry during the civil War. He fought in Calhoun Kentucky, Benton and New Madrid, Missouri, and Tiptonville, Fort Pillow and Memphis Tennessee and Helena Arkansas where he was discharged on Feb 3, 1863. He was wounded in the back and arm. His sons, John and Keerford were also enlisted in the same regiment, and Keerford was killed at Helena, Arkansas, and John died from wounds he suffered in the war.

Pictured on left is an unknown woman from my cousin Scott's photo album that was passed down in his family. She resembles the picture of Arbuthnot Trosper, mother of Louisa Erwin, and I speculate if this picture could be of Louisa Erwin. We will never know I guess; write down who your pictures are of. It will mean a great deal to people in the future.

This photo was sent to me by my cousin Scott, who descends from David Lloyd below, brother to my line, Henrietta. Scott doesn't know who the soldiers are, and I speculate that it could be John S., Keerford, and possibly their father, James W. Lloyd. My guess is that John S. Lloyd is seated on the left, next to his father, and Keerford, the younger son, is behind them.
Little Flock Church and It's History

i	John S. Lloyd - Born on 18 Nov 1841 in Sullivan Co., IN. John S. died on 6 Jun 1863, he was 21. Buried in Little Flock Cemetery, Indiana. He was mustered in from Sullivan Co. Indiana as a private, in the Indiana Forty-Third (43rd) Infantry Regiment, Company E on October 9, 1861, at the age of 20 yrs, alog with his brother Keerford and his cousins' George D. lloyd, Seth E. Cuppy and his father. John died from wounds suffered in the Civil War.
ii	Keerford Lloyd - Born on 20 Nov 1843 in Sullivan Co., IN. Keerford died in the Battle at Helena, Arkansas on 27 Dec 1862, he was 19. Buried in Little Flock Cemetery, Shelburn, IN.
iii	William Edward Lloyd - Born in 1845 in Sullivan Co., IN. William marries Deborah Mason. She was born Sept. 26, 1846 and married William Edward Lloyd July 25, 1865. They had four children; an unnamed infant 1866, James 1867, Louisa 1873, and Charles 1879. William and his family are listed in the 1880 Sullivan County, IN Census as follows: William, 35, wife, Deborah, 33, James, 13, Louisa, 7, Charles E., 1, Emma, 26, Edward, 5, Mary E. 2 - from my mother's notes: Debbie, William's wife contracted TB. An Emma moved in and took care of the children, when Debbie died William and Emma married. (William named his daughter Louisa after his mother (Louisa Erwin); and his first son after his father (James W. Lloyd). I don't know where they are buried).
iv	Henrietta (1847-1900);married Benjamin Franklin Monticue - Our line - we don't know where she is buried; but Aunt Ethel joked once to my mom that she was buried between her two husbands. Benjamin is buried in Little Flock Cemetery in Sullivan County, IN. I nor could my mother could find Benjamin Monticue's grave, the stone is either not legible anymore, has been broken and thrown away, or he never had one. He should have a Government Stone since he served in the Civil War.
v	James Alexander Lloyd. Born in Sullivan Co., IN, in 1849. This is Elizabeth Havel's line whom my mother corresponded with several times, had lunch with, and who provided my mother with some information on this family. - James served in the Civil War. Picture of James Alexander and his wife, Mary Mayfield (holding their son Ernest) graciously provided by Victor Havel, my cousin, a descendant of this couple and son of Elizabeth Havel with whom my mother corresponded.
vi	Henderson Lloyd. Born on 15 Feb 1851 in Sullivan Co., IN. Henderson married Henrietta ? and later divorced. Henderson's Service Record Per a letter to Elizabeth L. Havel, descendant of Alexander Lloyd above: "According to the records of the War Department in the National Archives, Henderson Lloyd enlisted again on December 24, 1890, at Terre Haute, Indiana and was honorably discharged December 23, 1895, at Fort Omaha, Nebraska, as a sergeant, Company G, 2nd United States Infantry. Reenlisted December 24, 1895, at Fort Omaha, Nebraska, and was honorably discharged December 23, 1898, at Camp Shipp, Alabama, as a sergeant, Company G., 2nd United States Infantry. Reenlisted December 24, 1898, at Camp Shipp, Alabama, and was honorably discharged December 23, 1901, at sea, as a color sergeant, Company G., 2nd United States Infantry. Reenlisted February 21, 1902, at Omaha, Nebraska, and was honorably discharged February 20, 1905, at Camp Daraga, Phillipine Islands, as a sergeant, Company C, 4th United States Infantry. Reenlisted February 21, 1905, at Camp Daraga, Phillipine Islands, and was retired March 3, 1905, at a 1st sergeant, Company C, 4th United States Infantry. Per my cousin Scott, Henderson Lloyd d. 11/25/1924 VA Medical center in Danville. Buried Danville National Cemetery. The picture in the upper right-hand corner is Henderson Lloyd's sharpshooter medal which was generously copied and sent to me via the internet by my cousin Scott. Some of the photos in this paragaraph are als well. Thanks Scott!
vii	David Lloyd, born 1853. From my cousin Victor Havel who descends from James Alexander Lloyd: The attached picture is the face side of a postcard, on the back of which my mother wrote ”Aunt Em”, “Guyola + Dale”, “Guyola Lloyd Vaughn”. “Aunt Em” is Emma F. Starr who was married to two of Henrietta Lloyd’s brothers, David Lloyd and then William Edward Lloyd. Aunt Em was three months shy of her 21st birthday when she married David Lloyd on March/April 12, 1874. Their son Edward was born one year later on April 18, 1875. There is some confusion about the second child or perhaps twins born three years later in 1878. My mother records a daughter, Mary E. Lloyd, aka ‘Mayme’ born in 1878, whereas in the 1890 Indiana Census, a Charles E. Lloyd, born July 1878, is listed as Emma’s son . Also, in the 1900 Indiana Census, Aunt Em is now married to David Lloyd’s older brother William Edward Lloyd. They are listed as having been married for 12 years, which suggests that they were married in 1888. Living in the same household, is “Giola Lloyd, niece, born March 1888”. ‘Giola’ is the Guyola Lloyd Vaughn who is pictured on the postcard. According to my mother’s records, David Lloyd, Aunt Em’s first husband, is Guyola’s father and an unknown “second wife” is Guyola’s mother. There is obviously more to this story as Guyola’s birth year is the same year 1888 that Aunt Em married David’s brother, William Edward Lloyd, and Guyola was raised in Aunt Em’s household rather than in her parents. 1888 is also just one year after William Edward Lloyd’s first wife, Deborah Mason, dies (on July 25, 1887). Deborah Mason, born Sept. 26, 1846 married William Edward Lloyd July 25, 1865. They had four children,; an unnamed infant 1866, James 1867, Louisa 1873, and Charles 1879. In the 1910 Indiana Census for Curry Township, Aunt Em’s household includes this Louisa (1873), her husband, Charlie Welch and their three children; Leonard age 13, Emma C. age 11, and _______ son age 2 months. Charlie Welch, like his father-in-law, William Edward Lloyd are coal miners. Guyola Lloyd aka ‘Ola’ and her husband, George Vaughn, resided across the Wabash River in Danville, Illinois. They adopted a son, Dale D. Vaughn who was born in Oklahoma, but whose parents were originally from Illinois. As he was born about 1911 and appears to be 5 or 6 in the picture, it was probably taken about 1915 or 1916. At that time, Aunt Em , born in 1853, is in her mid ‘60s.
viii	Charles Howe Lloyd - Charles Howe died on 24 May 1872 when he was almost 12 yrs old. Buried in Little Flock Cemetery, Shelburn, IN. I fixed his tombstone this summer (2005).
ix	Matilda Lloyd Born in Sullivan Co., IN. Matilda died in At age 3. Buried in Sullivan Co., IN. Not sure if she is at Little Flock cemetery with her brothers and parents, but am assuming so.

Fifth Generation

Henrietta LLOYD. Born on 10 May 1847 in Sullivan Co., Indiana. Henrietta died in Sullivan Co., Indiana on 25 Aug 1900, she was 53. On 18 Jun 1871 when Henrietta was 24, she first married Benjamin Franklin (Frank) MONTICUE, son of William Lewis MONTICUE & Martha BUNDY, in Sullivan County, Indiana. Born on 21 Apr 1840 in Guilford Co., North Carolina. Benjamin Franklin (Frank) died in Wilfred, Sullivan Co., Indiana on 24 Feb 1916, he was 75. See Bundy and Monticue lines. Henrietta married second to Leban Pfitzer in _____ after she was divorced from Benjamin Franklin Monticue. No tombstone can be found for Henrietta, pictured above left is of her father's tombstone in the Little Flock Cemetery (James W. Lloyd and his wife, Louisa Erwin).


Charles Howe Lloyd	Charles Howe Lloyd	Louisa Erwin

*James W. Lloyd*	*James W. Lloyd & Louisa Erwin*	*Keerford Lloyd, died from wounds suffered in Civil War*

Myself in front of John S. Lloyd and Keerford Lloyd's stones	Myself next to James W. Lloyd & Louisa Erwin's grave	*Myself next to Charles Howe Lloyd and James W. Lloyd's stones @ Little Flock Cemetery*

*I cleaned this stone June 2005, it turned out well*	*This stone was boken off it's base and lying on the ground, I cleaned it and put it back up*	*I took John's stone to my cousin's house and cleaned it and Charles Howe's stone, then took them back and 'glued' them back to their bases.*

1870 Curry Township, Sullivan County, Indiana Census:

Lloyd, James W., 44, carpenter
Louisa, (Erwin), 49, keeping house
Henrietta, 23
James A., 21, day laborer
Henderson, 19, day laborer

David, 17, day Laborer
Charles H., 10

1860 Curry Township, Sullivan Curry, Indiana Census:

House 1087, 6 August 1860

James W. LLoyd, 40
Louisa, 37
Clifford, 16
William E., 15
Henrietta, 12
James A., 11
Henderson, 9
David, 6
Charles, 3/12

Little Flock Cemetery in Sullivan County, Indiana - Several of the early Lloyds are buried here as well as Benjamin Franklin Monticue, my maternal great great, grandfather.

Henrietta Lloyd and Benjamin Franklin Monticue had the following children:

i.	Louisa Ellen Monticue (May 17, 1872-1925) called "Aunt Lou" my mother said. Louisa first married John Sankey and had Lyle and Mildred Sankey. Mildred is in the picture below on the left. Louisa moved to Montgomery, Alabama and died there. Louisa married second to Charles Tudor on Jan 9, 1902 (I don't have a marriage date for her first marriage right now); she and Charles had four children: Mary Montague Tudor, Clara Avis Tudor, Henrietta Isabell Tudor and Charles Franklin Tudor.
ii.	Flora May Monticue (May 30,1875 - July 21, 1947) Flora May Montague married Ruben Froment and they had Gladys Eulalie, b. 1894, on the left in this picture. The other children were Emmett Verl, Helen Marjorie and Joseph Franklin. Gladys Eulalie Froment married Claude Perkins. Some notes from Barbara Ratcliffe Smith on "Aunt Flo": "Flora May was always called "Aunt Flo" in our family. I can only remember seeing her once, though I probably saw her at times when I was too young to remember. She was a very large woman, as was her mother, Henrietta Lloyd. By the time I knew her she was elderly and white haired. I made the comment to Aunt Ethel once that she and Henrietta were certainly huge women, and Aunt Ethel became offended, sniffed and said that they were "stately" not huge. As I understand it, Flora May was against my Grandpa Ray marrying Grandma Jennie, and did her best to prevent it. Supposedly, Grandpa had a girlfriend in Terre Haute who was more high class. As it turned out, Grandpa's morals weren't all that high class, so maybe Flo had delusions of grandeur. Flora May married Reuben Froment. They lived in Shelburn throughout their lives. Their children were Gladys Eulalie, Emmett Verl, Helen Marjorie, Joseph Franklin and Dorrance V. Gladys Eulalie became deaf after an attack of Scarlet Fever when she was young. She attended the deaf school in Indianapolis, and married Claude Perkins whom she met at the school. They lived on a farm near Lafayette. She took my cousin Margaret, daughter of Uncle Earl, under her wing when Margaret was diagnosed as deaf and sent her to the Indiana State School for the Deaf in Indianapolis." Flora May and her husband are buried in Sullivan county, IN From my cousin Brenda: When you mention Gladys Eulalie Froment on your web site, their farm was just outside Lebanon, Indiana, which is about 25 miles north of Indianapolis. The reason I know so much about them is that we lived just down the road from them when I was very young, and we rented a house from them. While my mom explained to me that she and Gladys were cousins, I never did grasp just "how" they were cousins. Gladys also gave me my first kitten - carried it home in a brown paper bag so that kitten wouldn't get away. She always had ice cream and those kind of "styrofoam" (came in pink, white and brown) biscuit cookies for us kids. Brenda Montague From my cousin Victor Havel: The following are my mother's comments concerning the attached picture which I recorded back in October 1992: "a couple of distant cousins, they are from the Lloyd side of the family, their mother was a Lloyd, they are first cousins: This is Mildred Sankey and Gladis Fromant, she is deaf and married a man she met at the deaf school in Indianapolis, a big farmer from down around, not quite Lafyette, Indiana, they had a couple of children In my tracing families, I got in touch with her daughter, whose name is Farrow and she is on a big farm down there, and this girl (Mildred Sankey), the Mother and family moved to Montgomery, Alabama. I got in touch with one of her nieces, or maybe it is her daughter, I'll have to look it up, Judging from the fact that both girls were born in 1894 and the picture was taken circa 1910-1915 time frame and must have been taken in Indiana before the Sankey's moved to Alabama. The "Farrow daughter" of Gladys Forment Perkins that she refers to is actually Jean Ellen Farrow, a granddaughter (daughter of Fern Inez Perkins). I haven't figured out who the "niece/daughter Edith" of Midred Sankey is, do you have any idea??
iii.	Erastus Ray Monticue (1880-1941) - (my maternal great grandfather; who was murdered when he was 61 yrs old)
iv.	James Otis Monticue, born on 11 Jan 1884 in Sullivan Co., IN. James Otis died in Acton, AL. On 12 Dec 1901 when James Otis was 17, he married Ida HIGHFIELD. Notes from Barbara Ratcliffe Smith's research: Not too much is known about James. According to Sullivan County records, he married Ida Highfield in 1901. At one time he went to Virginia to work, according to Aunt Ethel, was laid off and wired Grandpa Ray for some money to come home. At some point he moved to Alabama. Aunt Ethel said he was married twice. He had 2 children - Thomas Baxter and Liberty Bond. Liberty Bond must have been born at the time of the First World War. Some parents really had patriotic fervor. James died in Acton, Alabama.
v.	David Dunreith Monticue (1881 - 1922), married twice, Alta Jewell and Mary Eagle. Notes from my mother: David Dunreith, born 1881 married first to Mary Engle. They had a daughter named Vivian. (I think this is who grandma named mom after. Mary died sometime before 1910, for in that year David married Alta Jewell. They had 4 children - Doris, Gilbert, Howard and Robert. Aunt Ethel and I attended a memorial service for Gilbert in Terre Haute in 1990 and I met his sister Doris. Around 1921, "Uncle Dunn" was getting off the inter-urban streetcar in Shelburn, slipped and fell on his head. He turned out to have amnesia. According to family tradition, Alta took this opportunity to have David committed to the insane asylum in Evansville. In those days it was much easier for a person to commit someone else. After David recovered he wrote all the family members to get him out of Evansville, but such an undertaking required hiring a lawyer and no one in the family had the money to do so. In 1922 David died at the asylum and they brought the body back to Shelburn. Aunt Ethel said the undertaker told them his body was covered with bruises. Whether he died of natural causes or not I never found out, he could have been beaten to death. In those days it took more money than coal miners had to investigate this kind of affair. According to Aunt Ethel, Vivian, (daughter of David Dunreith) never spoke to the rest of the Montague's again because they hadn't helped her dad get out of the asylum.